Nikon 200-400 VR faq

After 30 seconds or so the VR starts earning its money…! My answer to the question, is the 200-400 VR handhold-able?

The Nikon 200-400 VR

The Nikon 200-400 VR

I first saw one of these lenses ‘in the metal’ at my friends house years ago and my initial thought was ‘That is stupidly big, how could you carry that around all day?‘. And I think that tends to be the thing that shocks most new or potential owners most, as in your head you just don’t associate a zoom with something thats going to be this big and heavy. Read on to see my opinions on some of the more frequently asked questions from potential owners…

Overview
Weight: 3.18kg (7lbs)
Height without hood: 15 inches (38.1cm)
Height with hood: 18.7 inches (47.5cm)
Width: 4.5 inches (11.4cm)
Closest Focus: 2m in AF, 1.95 in MF
Links: NIKON

Purchase: Available in the UK from Warehouse Express and the U.S. from B&H Photo and Adorama (who also have second hand ones at times).

Before we get underway, I’ll apologise in advance for some of the pictures of the lens. I took most of them with fairly harsh sunlight coming in through the window with an old sheet thrown over my tv as a backdrop!

Whenever I want a new lens I read as much as I can about it, looking for example images, owners comments etc. So I decided to write up this FAQ based on my thoughts about the lens. I haven’t really covered the technical side as there are a million and one in depth reviews out there that have already done that. Instead, I wanted to talk about what it’s like from a day to day perspective and just answer some of the questions I myself had before I purchased one.

What’s in the bag?
The lens comes with it’s own soft carry case, the CL-L2, which can also be used to carry around the 500/4 and 600/4 lenses. In fact, at the moment it’s exactly what I use to carry my own 600/4 in. The bag itself has three bits of removable padding although I keep all of them in with the exception of the smallest piece which is used to go around the lens near the middle/top to stop and potential for wobble. However with a DSLR attached, there is no movement anyway.

Two main padding inserts

Two main padding inserts

The lens also comes with a clear glass filter to protect the large front element. This can be unscrewed to cut down on weight and it comes with it’s own little carry pouch which zips closed.

Front filter pouch

Front filter pouch

The supplied bag is very useful although I did have my reservations about it at first, but you can read more about that further down.

Can you handhold it & does VR help?
That seems to be one of the most frequently asked questions about this lens but the answer isn’t really clear cut as it depends on your own strength. I personally don’t mind carrying it around without a tripod as I almost always find something I can use for support, be it a tree, fence, wall, the ground, my knees (sitting on the floor with my legs pulled in towards me, knees to my chest) or of course a beanbag. In fact once, I even used a friends shoulder! The VR helps big time when your using less than sturdy support and whilst it won’t help freeze the action, it certainly lets you get away with much slower shutter speeds for slow moving objects. I think a monopod makes a very good accessory to this lens as between that and the VR you should find it pretty easy to hold the lens still enough without a tripod, in most situations. Its a heavy lens though, there are no two ways about it and once you add a D3 to the back of it its heavier still. It is however very well balanced, which does help – unlike the 600/4 whcih is very much a front heavy lens. So can you hand hold it with no support? Well I’ll sum it up like this…after 30 seconds or so the VR starts earning is money! Below is a shot to show the size of the 200-400 compared to the 70-200, so if you find the 70-200 a bit much to carry round you should definitely think twice about its bigger brother…!

70-200 v 200-400

70-200 v 200-400

Is it awkward to carry around?
Something that needs to be taken in to account when thinking about buying one of these lenses is the fact that you don’t want it to sit there at home because its too much effort to bring it out with you. That was a concern for me when I first got mine. But, here’s the thing, if you have the right bag for the job then carrying it about is absolutely fine. The standard bag is perfect for storing the lens + camera but really no good for carrying it around (you can read here for a solution to that) for any length of time with aching neck and shoulders kicking in pretty quickly. This at first put me off wanting to carry the lens about so if my above linked solution isn’t possible or too costly for you, make sure you budget for a good quality bag to go alongside the lens. These days I don’t think twice about sticking it in the car and carrying it around with me for a the day.

Modified CL-C2 bag

Modified CL-C2 bag

Is it any good for birding?
Well you can never have enough reach and for small birds 400mm just isn’t enough….but the answer here depends very much on how close you can get to your subjects, do you mainly use a feeding station, a hide etc?. If you have a feeding station set up then obviously yes, this lens will do just fine. But if you like to take your images out in the wild and shoot smaller species then this lens may not be ideal and something with a little more reach is probably what you should be looking at. Don’t forget though, on a DX body such as the D300 you are effectively getting a 300-600mm f4 VR lens which I’m sure you’ll agree isn’t too shabby, although even then not always enough. On the only two FX bodies currently available, the D3 and D700, things aren’t quite as easy and if you plan on getting frame fillers out in the wild you are going to have to practice your stalking techniques to make up for the lack of DX crop factor, something that was driven home to me when I moved from a D2x to the D3 and subsequently resulted in me getting a 600/4. The below shot was taken with the D3 and 200-400 at 400mm, the shot is full frame and is of a wild female Chaffinch.

Female Chaffinch in flight

Female Chaffinch in flight

Does it perform well with teleconverters?
I’ve done a seperate write up on my experience with the 1.4x TC, which you can read about HERE.

I also have done some brief testing with the 1.7x TC, which you can read about HERE.

To give you a brief summary…using the D3′s focus adjustment feature the results were far better than the ones I had previously managed with any TC’s on my old D2x. Without a TC on the lens is every bit as sharp as all the other comments and reviews you have no doubt read, will testify to. The one thing you obviously need to be aware of is adding a teleconverter to the lens slows down the auto focus and you will have to stop the lens down a little to get some sharpness back so your going to need good light to really get things working nicely. So the question of TC performance really comes down to personal taste, for me, the 1.4 is acceptable when I don’t want (or can’t) take the 600 with me. The 1.7x I’d use in an emergency.

Convenience of the zoom & close focus
For me, the reason for opting for this lens as my first long lens purchase was the zoom factor. I don’t only shoot wildlife and decided at the time a prime lens would a) be more expensive but b) limit me more with shooting other subjects. I also first used this lens with a D2x so I was effectively getting a 300-600 f4 thanks to that DX crop factor and that was enough reach for me. I have used my lens to shoot everything from wildlife to people…and…thanks to the lenses very good close focus ability you can even get some semi-macro shots with it so all in all a very versatile lens indeed! Also the ability to zoom out to acquire your target then zoom back in has been a life saver on a few occasions too.

Small Frog

Small Frog

Final thoughts
So knowing what I know now would I buy this lens again? Absolutely, yes. For me its been a great addition to my collection as I think it would be to anyones. The optics are incredible even wide open at 400mm and it is more than usable with a TC attached if you really need that extra reach and have reasonable light. If you shoot larger birds, animals or sporting events then I wouldn’t hesitate for a second in recommending this lens as the ability to zoom can be a life saver at times and the VR, whilst no good at freezing fast action, can sometimes give you that little advantage you need when shooting slow targets in low light. I’ve shot wildlife, people and even panoramic landscapes with this lens so it truly is a versatile bit of kit!

However, if your main subjects for shooting are small birds then you may find yourself slightly limited unless your prepared to put in more ground work for getting closer to your subjects undetected. Whilst I find the optics with a TC usable, some may not like the results. So if your only going to buy one lens and it’s a choice between this with lots of TC use or a 500 or 600/4 I’d go with the prime lens. And of course it IS heavy and I think that is one of the main things you need to take in to account when your thinking about buying one of these, especially if your not used to bigger glass and are stepping up from 70-200 sized lenses.

Thinking of buying?
If you live in the UK the 200-400 VR & converters can be purchased from Warehouse Express.
And if you live in America from B&HPhoto and Adorama.

More photos taken with the lens

Captive Bald Eage

Captive Bald Eage

Seal at Donna Nook

Seal at Donna Nook

Duck Portrait

Duck Portrait

Extra lens images
And here are a couple more shots to show the filter pouch as well as the filter size compared to my 77mm Nikon CPII. The front filter is so thick because it recesses in to the front of the lens. Also a shot to show the size of the 200-400 against the 70-200 & 600/4 without hoods attached (TC is the 1.4).

Front filter pouch

Front filter pouch

77mm CP v 200-400 front filter

77mm CP v 200-400 front filter

Front filter thickness (v 77mm CP)

Front filter thickness (v 77mm CP)

1.4x, 70-200, 200-400, 600mm

1.4x, 70-200, 200-400, 600mm

On location with the 200-400 VR

On location with the 200-400 VR

Speak Your Mind

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Comments

  1. Nick Lewis says:

    Looks good I want one!!!

  2. Tessy says:

    Nice frigging job dude!

    Thanks for the FAQ…

    I’m always satisfied after a good FAQ! :D

  3. Dawson says:

    Amazing lens
    Amazing images
    Amazing photographer

  4. Tim says:

    Good review.

  5. Srirama Raja says:

    Thanks for the review. Just reinforced the decision I took to order one without trying. I will get my lens next week.

    Hi Srirama, I did the same thing, ordered before trying. You won’t regret it!
    Richard

  6. Mark says:

    Excellent writeup. Enjoyed reading it. Just got this lens and love it.
    Thanks again for taking the time. You should be writing for magazines.
    mark

  7. Terry says:

    I have shot a minimum of 60k shots with this lens, and I never cease to be amazed by what it can do, whether on a D3, D700 or D300. There is nothing quite like it.

    Terry

  8. Wayne says:

    I have done a lot of research into this lens and I have had many sleepless nights deciding if this is the right choice for me. After reading this F.A.Q all my questions have been answered and I am off to place my order.

    Thanks,

    Wayne

  9. Hi Richard, just read your comments on this lens, been thinking of getting one since you got yours! Have now decided to bite the bullet and splash out so gonna order mine in next couple of days.

    Regards Mick Robinson

  10. Great stuff Mick, you will love what this lens can do! A little late but thank you to all those who have commented above, I’m glad you found the review helpful.

  11. Meik Bergmann says:

    Hi, Thanks for taking time to write this FAQ!
    Your thoughts about the carrying aspect are really nice, and helped me alot to come to a final decision.

    Very helpfull How about the CL-L2 modifications!

    Cheers!
    Meik

  12. Alan says:

    Hi, Do you mind me asking which tripod head you use with this lens?
    Thank You.

  13. Hi Alan, I used to use the MANFROTTO 393 but I now use the WIMBERLEY MKII if I am using a head for flight shots etc. A lot of the time though I just use a beanbag like THIS ONE from Wildlife Watching Supplies.

    I hope that is of some help.

  14. Peter says:

    Hi Richard, i currently own Nikkor 300mm f2.8 VR and use it with nikon 1.7 TC but never been fully satisfied with the IQ…thinking to get a little bit longer reach plus 1.4x TC and 200-400mm seems to be an ideal partner as i cannot really afford new prime 500mm VR…wondering if the IQ of 200-400mm+1.4TC is better than 300mm+1.7x…would like to see a full size image (or crop 100percent) of a bird (detail in feathers) from a distance…the cormorant you published in here looks good but it is very close to judge it…if you can help i will be happy…cheers

    • Hi Peter, sorry for the slow reply. I’ll have a dig around in my image archives and see if I can find something to show you.

      • Peter says:

        Hi Richard, thank you, every advice is welcome as im flying to Belize in february 2010 and by that time i would like to have equipment i can fully rely on (IQ)…Peter

  15. LOU says:

    I’ve owned – and loved using – this lens for the past five years. It’s versatile and relatively portable. I’m fit, but I don’t recommend using this lens hand-held. VR sucks battery life on this honker, even with the improved charge life on Nikon G3 bodies. Instead, get a “real” monopod; the Manfrotto 681 being the least common denominator. A Gitzo 3—/5— the cat’s meow. For air shows/birding, get the Really Right Stuff (RRS) MH-01 hi-capacity swivel head. This allows for stable vertical movement, with all the control – except for static balance – of a gimbal head on a tripod. The whole issue with tripods, big glass & following action: Body movement. It’s just NO fun dancing around three sticks, with a big, finicky setup on top. I’ve owned, used and sold a lot of gear over the years. I have to say a gimbal head NOT necessary/recommended for this lens. For a 500-600… maybe. Depends on how left footed you are. Teleconverters? The TC 14… Barely. The TC17…NO! Autofocus tanks. You get caught in no-man’s land on sharpness, between slow shutter speeds & sensor diffraction. If you need more reach, you have to cough up the dough, and do some serious persuasion with your spine.

    • Lou, thanks for your thoughts…I’m thinking about picking up the Really Right Stuff BH-55 for use with the 200-400 when travelling (and for use with other lenses for landscape etc). You seem to have a pretty good user knowledge of various head and lens setups – would you agree the BH-55 is a good choice? With regards to battery life, on one of my trips to Florida I managed almost 1,500 shots on a single charge with my D3 battery in the MB-D10 grip with exclusive 200-400 usage and at least 50% of the time with VR (one of my older D3 batteries only manages about 800 shots though so battery age plays a big part).

      • LOU says:

        Hi, Richard:

        The BH-55 can travel, but it’s not a light-weight companion. The RRS BH-40 will certainly handle the 200-400, but you’ll need to take more care when clicking the shutter. Still, the BH-40 would be my first choice for travel. You can put it on a Gitzo 25– series, and it’s a great combo. It’s less cumbersome to operate than the BH-55/35– series, and about as stout for the 200-400. More vibration sensitivity, though, so technique critical.

        Personally, I’ve gone from having three Gitzo’s (1128, 1325 & 1545) pods down to one: The 3530S – now the 3531S – w/BH-55 & Gitzo leveling base. I’m about 5′-11″, and this pod at full extension just right for stand-up shooting. But, the BH-40 on the Gitzo 2541 an awesome travel/everyday setup, with a smaller footprint, which is great for interior shots. It’s a bit more than some would consider “traveling”, but it’s just enough if your largest lens will be the 200-400/300 2.8. I like the BH-40 on the 2541 best of any compromise.

        Manfrotto has some decent ball heads, but the RRS has more payload, and just a great head that stays put and works consistently, without any excuses. Also, if you’re not using RRS’s L-brackets and lens plates, I’d have to ask: Why not? I have the replacement foot from RRS on my 200-400; it’s the way to go, mate. Wimberly plates work with RRS clamps, too. But, RRS has the best overall system/product quality going. Never was a company more aptly named.

        I’m just using the enl3e batteries, which have about 1/2 the life of the enl4 series. But, they have 1/3 the cost & lower weight. I’m not sure I’ll get into the D- series, so I don’t want to concern myself/spend for the larger battery/charger. I try to avoid the VR “addiction” when possible. Faster shutter speeds – and monopod – can solve this.

  16. David Lloyd says:

    I’ve hired this and a 300 2.8 before, but this review, (among others, but this one mainly), swayed my decision to purchase *this* lens. It came yesterday, and I’ve no regrets to its purchase as I expected. I’m also getting a lot out of this website in terms of ball heads and gimbals.

    This is one of the best review sites that I’ve seen, thanks Richard:)